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Maharani Moment Podcast I Ep 1 I Thayane Carlos & Dr. Elisa Di Carlo

November 20, 2020 Good Day Cork Season 1 Episode 2
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Maharani Moment Podcast I Ep 1 I Thayane Carlos & Dr. Elisa Di Carlo
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YAY! The 1st episode of #MaharaniMomentPodcast is here.
We have Thayane Carlos (Co-founder Cork Rooftop Farm) & Dr Elisa Di Carlo (Environmental Scientist) - Both share extremely personal stories of courage leading to liberation.
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Good Day Cork joins hands with Rebel City Distillery to bring you the Maharani Moment Podcast mini series.
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This is the Maharani Moment Podcast

 

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brought to you by Rebel City Distillery and Good Day Cork.

 

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We have all been at that juncture in time where life has offered us

 

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choices and no matter what we picked,

 

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there was no guarantee of how things were gonna turn out yet.

 

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There's this instinct that helps us make a life-changing choice.

 

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We might not even know it at that moment it’s only on reflection.

 

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We realise, “Aha. That was a Maharani Moment!”

 

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“..that moment of Liberation.”

 

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We have gathered stories to offer you comfort,

 

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to help you realise that self-liberation is well within our reach.

 

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We don't have to go very far to get these stories.

 

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The Maharani Moment Podcast is created right here in Cork - featuring people of Cork.

 

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So brace yourself, put your headset on

 

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because the next 30 minutes,

 

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is definitely going to be empowering.

 

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This is the Maharani Moment Podcast.

 

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In episode 1, our host Bhagya Barrett co-founder of Rebel City Distillery

 

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chats with Thayane Carlos, co-founder of Cork Rooftop Farm.

 

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And Dr. Eliza Di Carlo, an environmental scientist.

 

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We hope that this conversation inspires you to live your best life.

 

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Hi Thay thanks for joining us today.

 

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It's lovely to have you here and

 

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it would be it's a great opportunity to hear your story as well.

 

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How was your day? It was beautiful and thank you Bhagya

 

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for the opportunity to share my story with you and with the world.

 

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So my day was beautiful even though it was raining all day.

 

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So I really really enjoy gardening and farming.

 

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So I was doing I was sowing and planting.. this kind of stuff.

 

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It was nice.
So while gardening,

 

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do you listen to  any songs?

 

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Yes, I love piano.

 

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I love classical music.

 

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Oh, so every day when I go there I do my meditations
and yes piano piano and piano.

 

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Sometime I sing for the plants as well.

 

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Do your plans listen to music like you do?

 

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Yeah. I think they love this.

 

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I can see the brightness coming up.

 

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So Thay, when you moved from Brazil to Ireland, three years ago -

 

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Was there any moment where you got stuck and how did you overcome that?

 

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I think my real unstuck moment was when I was here.

 

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So as I said to you I was living in Dublin before

 

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and I lived there for three years and the point was - there -

 

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we have a really really huge

 

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community …Brazilian community and then I was living with Brazilians.

 

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I love my country. But you know,

 

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I love my people but my goal wasn't this -
like,  I travelled a 10,000 miles to come to Ireland

 

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and I found myself stuck and stuck

 

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yeah between the Brazilians again,

 

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and I could not improve my English, I was talking in Portuguese all the time and bad jobs,

 

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you know, so cleaning and babysitting and I said to myself like,

 

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“Okay, so it's not what I want to do…”

 

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You know, it's wasn't for this the why [reason] you know,

 

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I came from Brazil and okay,

 

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[I knew] that it’s time. “Let's move again.”

 

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“Let’s move again.” This is how I found Cork and and I fell in love.

 

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I came here three times before I moved to Cork .

 

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So that's why that was very important to me.

 

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You know that intuition.. listening [to] the voice of inside me like okay,

 

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“You need to do more, You can do more!”

 

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You know, you can go far.
To come out of that comfort zone, right?

 

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Yeah come out of the comfort zone and push out of the comfort zone.

 

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Yeah. Exactly. You can come out.

 

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Yeah and hats off to you Thay, because moving

 

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from one country from Brazil to

 

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Ireland learning a new language

 

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and pushing out of the comfort zone and now going ahead

 

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and starting up a business - Hats off to you.

 

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I think it needs a lot of courage a lot of passion - kudos to you

 

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for the courage to stand up for that

 

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and achieve more than what you already had.

 

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I think Corona in one way it's good

 

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for all of us because it makes us think outside the

 

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box and kind of find innovative ways of doing business,

 

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isn't it like the ‘Growth Box you're doing [at Cork Rooftop Farm] and all those.

 

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I think it's brilliant. People are .. all the businesses are
trying to do business in different way,

 

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which we wouldn’t even have thought,

 

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if Corona was not there.

 

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Yeah. I think the challenge makes humans think more, isn’t it?

 

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I totally agree.
If the Corona virus didn't come up,

 

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I don't know if I [would be] doing gardening,

 

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you know, I don't know if…
You see it pushed you and now…

 

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Yeah.
Now your’e running a Cork Rooftop Farm so it pushed you.

 

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Yes. Yes a lot.

 

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Maharani means Queen.

 

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So is there a moment in your life where you felt like a queen and where you felt totally liberated?

 

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Was there any moment where you felt like a queen
and could you please share that with us?

 

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Yes. Yes. I have I really really big moments in my life,

 

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that made me  literally jump, you know

 

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in from from the abyss. Like my Maharani..

 

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Moment was a really big decision that I did 17 years ago

 

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when I decided to run away from home.

 

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I was living with my father and his brother.

 

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He tried to abuse me and my father was out of the reality,

 

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you know, he was alive, but with the traumas,

 

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you know - it had consumed his soul,

 

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his brain and everything. My mom unfortunately,

 

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[committed] suicide and my grandmother passed away.

 

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Within one year after my mom and in sequence [following that] the

 

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favourite sister of my father .. my aunt was very ill.

 

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It was in a very short period of time

 

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and that was a completely disaster - strikes our family you know.

 

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I think that [they] those three women were holding the entire family

 

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because after that we just you know - we separate[d]. It was like a tsunami in our family and yeah.

 

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I guess that's why my father, you know could not see you know

 

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and care about me and my brother - I have one brother.

 

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The government was giving my father money
to help us; me and my brother - but he wasn't,

 

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you know doing anything with the money and we had our house as well.

 

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So that money should be enough for our education, for food,

 

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but he was sick as well.

 

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You know, I forgive my father because now I can understand.

 

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You know, I can see everything clearly. But I could not stay so I ran from my home that day.

 

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I was praying and crying in front of Christ.

 

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I had one how can I say this Monument or statue?

 

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Yeah, and I had this image in my room

 

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and then I was crying crying crying asking for help and asking for my mom

 

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and trying to understand why .. that you know what was happening with me.

 

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You know [asking myself], “What I did?”

 

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And God gave me this answer: go to - run away,

 

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you know  - go to your auntie.

 

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She's very lovely.

 

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And is [the] sister of my mom and I lived there with her three years of my life.

 

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That was the second time, I found love in my life

 

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that moment  - to me was very important

 

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because I was needing,

 

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you know - a hug and care,

 

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you know  - and simple things like a hug, talking.

 

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So that was a big decision.

 

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But but was one of those - the best of my life

 

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because I could go back to studying, I had my room, I had my own privacy.

 

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You know  - so these things to me is very

 

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very very very important.

 

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You know, I always  - how can I see this? I

 

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am always very grateful to her

 

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because I lived with her for three years

 

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and was from my 15yrs to my 18yrs.

 

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So I get the support,

 

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you know to be a grown woman,

 

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you know to understand
and be independent.

 

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Yes independent and to be aware what was coming next like okay?

 

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‘Suicide is this’ - ‘Life is this, this and that,

 

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you know, you know until you're 15 and right now,

 

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you know more this. She gave me the love and knowledge,

 

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you know, “So be careful with this, with that.”

 

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Things that I was missing from my mom

 

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and my dad  - so yes.

 

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Yeah, Thay losing a dear one, family one is a very hard thing, right!

 

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I'm happy that you shared it

 

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because it's a very personal thing and it's .. such a ..

 

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very emotional thing as well.

 

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I'm glad you shared that with

 

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us because you have channelised that particular moment

 

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and you have pivoted in your life in a different direction

 

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and gone to the next level.

 

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And thanks Thay, for sharing that particular moment with us.

 

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You’re welcome.
I wish I could give you a hug - hugs for you.

 

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Yeah, I'm feeling your hug.

 

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Don't worry. I'm feeling. I am feeling. .

 

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Remember last time when we were speaking you were

 

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telling a Portuguese word … for a strong woman.

 

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I forgot. What was it?

 

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Voće - you are ‘Babadeira’

 

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Thanks Thay for taking your time.

 

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You're welcome.
Talking with us.

 

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You’re welcome..very welcome to come to Cork Rooftop Farm.

 

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You know, when everything is open, please I want to
meet girls here every week

 

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so we can sit down and talk about business.

 

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You know, I think it’s important as well human pushing [encouraging] human.

 

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You know, “Let's go. Let's do this. We can do this.” you know,

 

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We are able, more than able,

 

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you know to do anything that I want .. we want.

 

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You know, so yeah. Yes,

 

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definitely. Definitely we're gonna do it.

 

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So and we should catch up with some drinks as well.

 

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A message from Rebel City Distillery:

 

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Vanamoolika is an all-women collective

 

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who practice organic farming method

 

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and are based in the state of Kerala in India.

 

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Rebel City Distillery sources incredible organics [botanicals] from this farm

 

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which spice the ‘Maharani Gin’.

 

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Please drink responsibly.

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Thank you Elisa for being on our show

 

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and I'm so happy and super excited to welcome my friend,

 

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Dr. Elisa DeCarlo for today's Maharani Moment Podcast.

 

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So Elisa, you're a scientist. You are an environmental scientist,

 

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right? And you are a women in STEM.

 

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How is your journey in the science field?

 

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Do you see any kind of challenges as a woman in STEM.

 

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How was your journey because you moved from Italy from a very big city, Rome to Limerick

 

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and then you started off doing your doctorate,

 

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completed it and now you're working as a post-doc.

 

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How was that journey for you? Well,

 

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You're right, I come from Italy where I started my studies in Biology

 

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and then I continued that through internship and grants and also went to Switzerland.

 

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So I try to expand my expertise and get experiences abroad as well.

 

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And finally I came to Ireland for a PhD and now I'm continuing with a post-doc.

 

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I would say it has been a tough journey

 

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but I wouldn't say that being a woman has limited

 

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me until now I would say to be honest have I've never experienced any issue

 

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and pressure, never felt less the than any man, peer never sense unbalanced treatment

 

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or minor compensation in comparison to a man [male]

 

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colleague so till now my experience

 

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as a woman in science has been a hundred percent positive

 

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and but I suppose this is

 

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because my field is Biology

 

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and it wouldn't be the same it was in other scientific disciplines such

 

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as Maths, Physics, Engineering that are pretty much dominated by men.

 

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So in my own experience, I never felt an outlier

 

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and minority or.. Always felt surrounded by lovely people

 

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so I should say that it's been positive so far.

 

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So what was your research in?

 

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So my background is Biology

 

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and I've been monitoring waters - levels of pesticides in water, levels of mercury.

 

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How does it affect the living organisms?

 

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But then when I moved to Ireland that I've started a PhD,

 

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sorry doctorate, I moved to soil instead

 

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and I was looking at the heavy metals present in soils due to the mining

 

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activities in particular the extraction of aluminum from

 

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soil and this has unfortunately

 

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might have an impact on the organisms living in the soil

 

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and the plants growing on that soil.

 

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So my focus was trying to look at the

 

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effect of those heavy metals to those organisms.

 

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Are they growing as well as usual

 

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or is there an impact and are there may be risks

 

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for the food chain due to the accumulation of heavy metals?

 

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That's what I've been looking at in the last four years.

 

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So was it the love for nature which

 

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which kind of pushed you into this research field?

 

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Is it that or is that a kind of global climate change we're seeing is that the kind of

 

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inspiration you had to choose this research area?

 

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Yes, that's for sure because I remember

 

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I was particularly sensitive to those topics

 

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when I was young - in high school.

 

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Yeah, I was particularly caring

 

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for the sort of the planet

 

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and that's for sure has pushed me towards Biology

 

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and then towards a more environmental focus - the specialisation.

 

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Yes, there is a saying right whatever we kind of really feel in

 

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childhood that has a kind of strong impact

 

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when you grow up.

 

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So it's good to see that whatever you had values in [your] childhood that

 

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pushed you into doing something, into that research.

 

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That's brilliant Elisa.

 

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So Elisa, apart from your busy schedule

 

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as a post-doc and as a scientist

 

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what extra-curricular activities you have?

 

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Yes that I would say music. Most of the time

 

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it is the background - uh -  soundtrack of my days.

 

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I really listen to music to relax

 

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or to cook or to focus when I'm working or

 

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to have a boost of energy if am going running.

 

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So it's really a huge part of my day.

 

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And I listen to quite a wide range of music from Rock to

 

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Ballads from Soul to Folk, Classical music as well.

 

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I've started to pick up an instrument

 

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and that was drums and this also

 

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comes from an old passion from my childhood.

 

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I have to say that I always had in mind to play drums.

 

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Never did. I don't know why.

 

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Finally, I got inspiration

 

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and I started taking classes four years ago now

 

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and now I [have] also formed a band.

 

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So even though we're not professional at all

 

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we just do that for fun and for ourselves, for our enjoyment.

 

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This gives me a lot of motivation.
Cool a scientist who can play drums?

 

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I think that's brilliant and that's super cool.

 

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So when is the next gig you should invite us.
Yes it sounds good.

 

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So Elisa when you moved from Italy,

 

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was there any kind of challenges? Is there any point where you really felt stuck?

 

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And what was your inspiration to push forward

 

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and keep going and achieve what you wanted?

 

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Yeah, I had many problems at the beginning

 

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for the first month when I moved to Ireland from Italy because back then.

 

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I had my life in Italy: my family is really close, my friends, even a boyfriend.

 

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So I really had my comfort zone - well settled.

 

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And when I got this opportunity to start a research in Ireland in my

 

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field, in a topic that I really was interested in.

 

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I couldn't say no. It was such a big offer.

 

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I could not refuse, but that's true that that’s it's been very

 

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hard for me to leave all that

 

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and to start all over from zero

 

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and at the beginning of the first [few] months  [had a] strong feeling of not

 

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belonging, not being part of this culture.

 

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I wasn't feeling like [it] was my culture

 

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and plus I could not even understand the Irish accent at all.

 

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So a lot of struggles and … but I made it.

 

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How I don't know … how I made it … and probably

 

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my source of inspiration have been my grandparents.

 

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I was thinking about them the other day because you know,

 

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we are facing a tough time now,

 

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but my grandparents … our previous generations

 

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have lived under the bombs of the second world

 

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when when they were teenagers or very young

 

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they were experiencing a very tough time.

 

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And even before that, even before the war,

 

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I remember my grandparents telling me that

 

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they were cultivating the land of someone else

 

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and they just got a small amount of the harvest

 

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so they were really struggling with putting food on the table.

 

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And I always remember my grandparents smiling, positive,

 

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strong stable, so I suppose I I feel I owe…

 

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I owe them something -  it wouldn't be fair to them,

 

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give justice to them [justify] if I give up

 

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the first difficulty at the first barrier,

 

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so they represent a very powerful inspiration for me.

 

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And look where you are now so hats off to you Elisa. Yes.

 

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Maharani means Queen. So is there a moment where you felt

 

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really liberated really powerful really strong?

 

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Yes, there have been many over the years little ones but I would say the biggest one.

 

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It's been the day in which I defended my thesis.

 

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It was around this time last year and that day it meant

 

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so much to me because it was the end of this journey.

 

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It was not it was not only a professional achievement in academic recognition,

 

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but it has been like the finish line of this long journey that I started

 

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as a mentioned when I moved from Italy

 

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and I passed have to face all these struggles

 

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and and then somehow I don't know how thanks to the people for sure.

 

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I met during the journey I made it and finally I

 

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came to the day in which I even defended

 

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my thesis. So that was that has been for years of hard work.

 

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I can remember lots of weekends spent in the

 

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labs or nights spent working on graphs and

 

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on days off my mind was always there, in my research.

 

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So I put a lot a lot  lot of effort

 

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and finally the day I defended the thesis,

 

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I felt so proud of myself because I knew

 

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the amount of work behind

 

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that and I knew how much struggle

 

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meant for me being in another country in starting all over from zero,

 

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so it was a victory.

 

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Really? Like I felt like I climbed on the top of a mountain

 

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and I was feeling really powerful and in control and self confident.

 

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That's that's been my biggest Maharani Moment.

 

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And Elisa we friends were there for defense -

 

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So I remember watching you when you were defending it.

 

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Oh my God, you really owned that place.

 

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You slayed it, you know. Totally confident and we friends were like,

 

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oooh  in tears … so happy and so proud of you.

 

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I'm so happy. I could see that..

 

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So Eliza. What do you seay? What do you say in Italian for a Maharani?

 

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How do you say what's the word for the Maharani?

 

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I don't know never never thought about that.

 

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Yeah. Yeah. So for sure Un Momento da Regina, a queen moment.

 

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Yeah, thanks Elisa. Thanks Elisa for spending your

 

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time with us your valuable time with us

 

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and sharing your journey and your Maharani moment with us.

 

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Thank you. My pleasure. My pleasure.

 

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Thanks for inviting me.